Lee Daniels How you share others' work is entirely your call. I'm just glad that you do!
Lee Daniels How you share others' work is entirely your call. I'm just glad that you do!
Human communities thrive on charity and generosity (and on the flip side of the coin, riots occur when the disparity between one segment and another gets too great... witness the 99%/1% demonstrations globally and entire governments overthrown). So to foster a healthy online community here on G+, I'm simply doing my part and have #SelflessSunday give the community back to the community, at least for a few short moments every week. Share others' work on Sunday, or every day (and I know you often do)!
Using the #SelflessSunday tag may help your recommendation get found by others on G+, via a G+ search which might give you a result like this:
https://plus.google.com/s/%23SelflessSunday/posts
Brian White has written some scripts to even enable G+ users to see selections from the daily themes on his blog: https://plus.google.com/u/0/103147347309732225253/posts/2xKSdiV5usk
Google+ embodies the promise of networking described in the Cluetrain Manifesto:
“A powerful global conversation has begun. Through the Internet, people are discovering and inventing new ways to share relevant knowledge with blinding speed. As a direct result, markets are getting smarter—and getting smarter faster than most companies”.
http://www.michielgaasterland.com/business-insights/read-the-cluetrain-manifesto/
One of the interesting concepts proposed is "_conversations subvert hierarchy", and I'm particularly curious whether the G+ community can resist or overturn the artificial hierarchy imposed on G+ by Google's hidden recommended user list (https://plus.google.com/getstarted/follow).
I couldn't comment on your post directly; there was no comment option, so I had to share it back to you. I'm making it public to re-introduce the concept of #SelflessSunday. Thanks for sharing the work of Konstantinos Arvanitopoulos, and for engaging in healthy community-driven activity to promote the health of G+!
Originally shared by Konstantinos Arvanitopoulos
"Three of a kind"
Giraffe (Giraffa camelopardalis) is the tallest animal in the world, reaching up to 5.5 m. height and the biggest ruminant (up to 1,900 kg weight). Each animal has a unique patch pattern on its body.
Etosha National Park, Namibia, Africa
Nikon D200, Nikkor 80-400 mm, 1/500 sec at f/ 5.6, ISO 100
© Konstantinos Arvanitopoulos Photography, 2006-2011. All Rights Reserved.
Human communities thrive on charity and generosity (and on the flip side of the coin, riots occur when the disparity between one segment and another gets too great... witness the 99%/1% demonstrations globally and entire governments overthrown). So to foster a healthy online community here on G+, I'm simply doing my part and have #SelflessSunday give the community back to the community, at least for a few short moments every week. Share others' work on Sunday, or every day (and I know you often do)!
Using the #SelflessSunday tag may help your recommendation get found by others on G+, via a G+ search which might give you a result like this:
https://plus.google.com/s/%23SelflessSunday/posts
Brian White has written some scripts to even enable G+ users to see selections from the daily themes on his blog: https://plus.google.com/u/0/103147347309732225253/posts/2xKSdiV5usk
Google+ embodies the promise of networking described in the Cluetrain Manifesto:
“A powerful global conversation has begun. Through the Internet, people are discovering and inventing new ways to share relevant knowledge with blinding speed. As a direct result, markets are getting smarter—and getting smarter faster than most companies”.
http://www.michielgaasterland.com/business-insights/read-the-cluetrain-manifesto/
One of the interesting concepts proposed is "_conversations subvert hierarchy", and I'm particularly curious whether the G+ community can resist or overturn the artificial hierarchy imposed on G+ by Google's hidden recommended user list (https://plus.google.com/getstarted/follow).
I couldn't comment on your post directly; there was no comment option, so I had to share it back to you. I'm making it public to re-introduce the concept of #SelflessSunday. Thanks for sharing the work of Konstantinos Arvanitopoulos, and for engaging in healthy community-driven activity to promote the health of G+!
Originally shared by Konstantinos Arvanitopoulos
"Three of a kind"
Giraffe (Giraffa camelopardalis) is the tallest animal in the world, reaching up to 5.5 m. height and the biggest ruminant (up to 1,900 kg weight). Each animal has a unique patch pattern on its body.
Etosha National Park, Namibia, Africa
Nikon D200, Nikkor 80-400 mm, 1/500 sec at f/ 5.6, ISO 100
© Konstantinos Arvanitopoulos Photography, 2006-2011. All Rights Reserved.
How would you like to close that issue you have with suggested user list? Any ideas?
ReplyDeleteMihailo Radičević I had a dozen or so paragraphs of ideas written, then Chrome lost them. I'll try to restart the list after taking a break, but I have a deadline today which I also need to work on. Let's see how many i can quickly summarize:
ReplyDelete1. Reward community behavior, e.g. generosity, sharing of others' work. Involve sociologists in your design process, especially for any suggested user list or content-recommending features.
2. Don't create or worship celebrities; make any form of recommendation of people or posts a broad, inclusive, community-based process. Fight circle size bias. Build diversity in circle count, G+ experience, everything. There are suspicions of favoritism, the results show an odd focus on a small group, so whatever was the criteria until at least mid-October needs to go (and may need to be corrected for). Help conversations overturn hierarchy.
3. Remove technology biases. No reward for hangouts. Be inclusive of people in rural areas, not the top 10% of the population in cities (as one Googler pointed out). Remove from your metrics any bias against people on cellular Internet connections, satellite, perhaps even dial-up connections.
4. Use What's Hot metrics as a contributing factor. Correct for circle count advantages (again, broaden participation).
5. Consider using some community-based input, such as closely-curated photographer circles from 16 to 165 to 1000 members. Bear in mind that these favor people who were promoted by Google for 2 months, and at least partially correct for that.
6. Broaden volume participation, closer to Flickr's Explore at 500/day and 3500/week... definitely not like Google's 24 people promoted for 6 weeks.
7. Separate photography and art. Understand the difference. (Some HDR results support the creation of photorealistic results, others based on poor exposures or having a non-photorealistic goal belong in art.)
8. Include human curation, specifically to avoid algorithms promoting the same people. Surprise the community with new people or work overlooked by the algorithms.
9. Don't prioritize partners. Pay developers to port to Droid. Write your own G+ user manual. By all means reward partners, but prioritizing them over other community members (and presenting them as if they are there for some other reason), or even appearing to do so, really isn't appropriate. Tread very carefully where there may be perceptions of favoritism by the community (justified or not). If anything, you should avoid people who appear to represent conflicts of interest.
10. Don't just embrace the Google value "don't be evil", do good. I don't just mean reward people who contribute to charities for the public relations gain. This is a historically difficult global economy; help people who are trying to make a living, keep a roof over their heads, feed their kids and maybe even send them to college (rather than focus on people with a day job doing photography as a hobby, or on their fifth lap of the world). Use resources like the Full Time Photographers circle to identify candidates, but also use human judgement to filter candidates and determine where Google's support really can make a measurable difference.
These are just some quick ideas; I know I've left a few off. They can be used in combination, and different combinations can be used on different days to ensure that the people and posts recommended keep changing, and the participation reflects the choices across a broad swath of the community, not just people with the highest circle counts or who kisses up to Google the best. Shock us with how diverse the presentation is, not (as in the past) how static and incestuous a clique at the top can remain (real or imagined... Sociology 101... G+ is a community, not just a collection of technologies). Appearances are equivalent in importance to reality in some cases; get over it, get used to it, and adapt processes accordingly.
ReplyDeleteI'll be in the Bay Area during the Thanksgiving week if anyone at Google wants to go into any of this in more detail or wants to get the perspective of G+ participants outside of Google's tiny A List.